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Vernon Warner's avatar

Thank you for rambling! Having read thousands of books during my lifetime, I can say that Graves White Goddess is one of the few that has altered the way I view the world. I don't pretend to understand it all or even most of it in the thirty or so years since I first read it but there is something about the subject and the language that has opened doors for me.

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History Explored's avatar

Thanks Vernon … I know what you mean about altering the way you view the world: I feel the same! Best regards David M

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Lincoln Bjorkman's avatar

Perspicacious as always, and the well chosen quotes make me wonder what the hell I was reading in school to have missed so much. I think you need to write down the top 50 books you think we, mere mortals who admire your rambles, need to make certain we have read. I would appreciate that gift, though your “rambles” are certainly gift enough. Thank you and looking forward to the next!

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Lincoln Bjorkman's avatar

From you, intensely subjective is the whole point! I see plenty of lists. I would love to know what you might put on such a list. Not definitive, but very you. Food for thought. I hope this finds you well. Cheers from the East Coast of the deeply troubled United States.

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History Explored's avatar

Thanks Lincoln 🫡👍

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History Explored's avatar

Cheers Lincoln, much appreciated - I’ll give some thought to the books idea. I must admit it’s never crossed my mind but now you’ve planted the seed! It would be intensely subjective but i suppose so are many kinds of list. Anyway thanks for thinking of it 👍😀

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Gordon's avatar

Ditto for the list of your top 50 books us ramblites would admire.

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Luann Madison's avatar

More rambles please!

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Janice's avatar

It is when poets get ahold of history

that it acquires meaning, and becomes known to the common man.....that an outline takes shape for everyman. e.g., Unknowns/Gilgamesh; Homer/the Trojan War.

That an archetypal presence becomes known (e.g., Pan, the Piper at the Gates of Dawn, becomes apparent to Rat and Mole, as having rescued Young Otter) . ... The gods taking part in the Trojan War....or any war.

That historical figures become mystified (Chesterton/King Alfred),

That "Man and Woman created he them" is cadenced, sung, cursed, begun again.........

If you don't have time to read The White Goddess, Graves has given us: "To Juan at the Winter Solstice":

There is one story and one story only

That will prove worth your telling.

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Is it of trees you tell, ......

Or of the Zodiac and how slow it turns

Below the Boreal Crown,

Prison of all true kings that ever reigned ?

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Or is it of the Virgin's silver beauty

...............

Her brow was creamy as the crested wave,

Her sea-blue eyes were wild

But nothing promised that is not performed.

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David Myton, you have set yourself a heavy lift if you do return to historiography. Thanks for

today's post.

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History Explored's avatar

Nice comment Janice, thanks. And thank-you for reminding me about Juan At The Winter Solstice - best regards David M

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Gordon's avatar

David, Have you read Graves’ book “Goodbye To All That”? Given that Graves was severely wounded in WW1, suffered acutely from “shell-shock” and still managed to live to 90; I wondered if his writing became cathartic for him?

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History Explored's avatar

Hi Gordon: many thanks for the comment, I appreciate it. I suppose writing would have been cathartic for him but I think his main driving force was that he understood himself to be a professional writer. It was his job. He was good at it. Another driver would have been that he was a bloke who had a “lavish lifestyle” and he simply needed the money to live in the manner to which he had grown accustomed. Cheers David M

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Olwen Assheton's avatar

Very interesting. I am fascinated by myths of dragons.

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LudwigF's avatar

Thanks for sharing this.

Another of Robert Graves’ historical novels that I enjoyed reading and can recommend was Count Belisarius, set in the 6th Century; not a peaceful time for Rome.

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Ben Loomis's avatar

The White Goddess has been on my (constantly growing) to-read pile for ten years now, but it's always somewhre in the middle. You just moved it a bit though; thanks for the ramble.

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